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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:03:17 +0000
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From: Richard White <raw997@aber.ac.uk>
Subject: H-ASIA: Q. Jap. Econonic expansion
To: Multiple recipients of list H-ASIA <H-ASIA@H-NET.MSU.EDU>
Historical parallels of Japanese economic expansion
A dialog frm the H-Asia list January 1998
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:03:17 +0000
From: Andrea Campana, Dottore di ricerca <md3206@mclink.it>
From: Andrea Campana, Dottore di ricerca <md3206@mclink.it>
Dear contributors,
Here is a request for help in order to prepare an article-discussion for an
Italian Historical Review.
Any contributions or suggestions are welcome on the following subject:
An historiographic assessment on "The [Japanese] Greater East Asia
Co-prosperity Sphere" today. How was it different from the expansion of Nazi
Germany in Europe? What can be the lesson from it looking to the economic
expansion of Japan in East Asia today?
Can you send an original tought on this?
Thank you
Andrea Campana
Assistant Professor
University of Florence (Italy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:52:55 -0500
From: "Andrea Campana, Dottore di ricerca" <md3206@mclink.it>
Subject: I: II Query: Historical Parallels - The Japanese Co-prosperity Sphere and Economic Expansion
Dear colleagues,
In order to ginger up the debate for the next number of an Italian
Historical Review, could you comment on the following statements?:
In History the expansion of influences by a leading civilization can
have good effects or bad effects.
The expansion of a "peaceful" civilization is good.
The Japanese Co-prosperity project had in nuce strong (common) ethnic
and economic elements.
Thus it was, as a result, a project for a "good expansion" to which
today we can look in a different way than to, for instance, Nazi's
experience in Eastern Europe. At least, we could give a positive
judgement to its ethnic and economic aspects.
Had Japanese foreign policy in the 1930s and 1940s a relevant and
positive racial and economic aspect aiming to integration? Can we say
that these two elements are present also in current Japanese foreign
policy?
Thank you in advance for your original thoughts.
Andrea Campana
January 24, 1998
From: Andrea Campana <md3206@mclink.it>
Dear Prof Leibo: I re-send my post of 9th January 1998 for GENERAL
attention and for possible "public" debate
Andrea Campana
University of Florence
Dear colleagues,
In order to ginger up the debate for the next number of an Italian
Historical Review, could you comment on the following statements?:
In History the expansion of influences by a leading civilization can
have good effects or bad effects.
The expansion of a "peaceful" civilization is good.
The Japanese Co-prosperity project had in nuce strong (common) ethnic
and economic elements.
Thus it was, as a result, a project for a "good expansion" to which
today we can look in a different way than to, for instance, Nazi's
experience in Eastern Europe. At least, we could give a positive
judgement to its ethnic and economic aspects.
Had Japanese foreign policy in the 1930s and 1940s a relevant and
positive racial and economic aspect aiming to integration? Can we say
that these two elements are present also in current Japanese foreign
policy?
Thank you in advance for any original thoughts.
Andrea Campana"
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:57:37 -0500
From: Michael Turton <mturton@ms1.showtower.com.tw>
> As M. Caprio underlines, in the 1920s the Japanese in Korea carried out
> infrastructural improvements. The attitude of Tokyo to the Koreans is
> another story but a moral judgement probably cannot be reached by only
> looking at the Japanese-Korean relationship and would have to be seen in
> a more international context.
What "more international context" is needed to make a moral judgement?
The Japanese occupied Korea, an independent Kingdom for some centuries
prior to that time. That is a
morally unjustifiable act, regardless of your viewpoint.
> On Kinmonth's remark that it is an open question whether Japan really
> had "a Foreign Policy in the 1930s and 1940s" I would like to have,
> please, some bibliographical indications on this view or more
> information. I think Japan did have a foreign as
> one today. In the past, Tokyo initiated aggression, that was not even
by their revanchiste goals (as in the case of
> Germany). Today, Japanese fist.
Regardless of what you think, the vast majority of scholars writing
on this issue have identified an inability to create, shape and implement
coherent foreign policy as a major problem for Japan in the 1930s and
1940s. Reasons are too complex to go into at
any
length here, but fundamentally, the gov't lost control of the Army. I suggest
you start
with some of the more accessible works for general audiences on Japan in that period,
such as Saburo Ienaga's _The Pacific War_ or John Toland's two-volume _Rise and
Fall......._ Van Wolferen's _The Enigma of Japanese Power_ also discusses
the period.
Any decent biography of a major Japanese leader of the period,
such as Tojo, will talk
about this problem, as well as any history of the Japanese Army or Navy. All these
works have their weaknesses, but further reading in scholarly works will clarify the
issues.
> I am sorry that M. Turton misunderstood me, but I thank him for the
> references he sent. I would like to know more on the debate on Confucian
> values: he quotes an article by Harrell on the work ethic of the
> Chinese, but he doesn't attach a reference. May I have it? Thanks (all
> the other books he quotes have no precise references).
The ref for Harrel is: Harrell, Stevan. 1985. "Why do the Chinese Work So Hard?:
Reflections on an Entrepreneurial Ethic." Modern China 11,2: 203-226.
As for the others, title and author are generally sufficient info to
find any book with modern search programs. The debate on Confucian
ethics and development has been played out in numerous
articles and books. I have a bibliography on small business and political economy
in Taiwan with several works on the issue at:
http://www.showtower.com.tw/~mturton/bib.html
Silin, Wilmott, Hamilton (et al) are all good places to look for starters.
Judging by your comments on putting Korea in an international context to make a
moral judgement, no, I haven't misunderstood you.
Mike Turton
From: Margherita Zanasi <zanasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
I have to say that I am quite bewildered by Dr. Campana's message on the
Japanese co-prosperity sphere. I found my argument totally misrepresented.
Especially when he argues
>Dott. M. Zanasi does not distinguish colonialism and imperialism from
>political-economic-cultural influence.
I also don't remember having supported a subaltern-study approach to
colonialism and denied "interplay between colonizers and colonized."
I know Dr. Campana from the times of my undergraduate studies at the
University of Florence (IT) and I had sent him a personal message with some
ideas on the query he submitted to H-Asia. I wouldn't mind his unauthorized
use of my personal message in his latest posting, if it weren't for his
misrepresentation of my thoughts.
Margherita Zanasi
University of Texas at Austin
Garrison Hall 114
zanasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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